NB: I post letters (only with initials or just common first name) that are purely feedback, if
there are questions I mark the subject and other references with bold face letters - both in
the letter and my reply.
Update [February 5th 2010]: Dear Helge, I have been studying your intraday charts
since December last year and must thank you for so generously sharing your brilliant
forecasts with the world. Your work is more than impressive and the best part is that
you are able to remain so humble about your considerable achievements. So I thought a
note of thanks was more than overdue, and I really hope to see you continue posting
your forecasts. Thank you - you are an amazing gift to all traders!
I was also wondering whether you could be so kind as to show your intraday forecast
for the following Monday as well in your weekly forecasts at
http://www.cyclelt.com/INT.htm ? I noticed that you recently put in last Friday's
forecast together with the current week. Would it be possible to replace that with the
following Monday's forecast please? As a trader, I often have difficulty wondering
whether to hold a position through the weekend so a forecast for the following Monday
would be invaluable. Thank you so much once again: your charts keep getting better
and better, and I very much appreciate all the additions you've been making to the
intraday charts page! You're the best, really! Kind regards, C
Thanks C ... for your kind comments about my effort and original research. I do not get
much feedback, so yours was very welcome. My audience out there is quite static, so spread
the good news, that is the only thing you can do; to secure the duration for this service, since I
have kept publishing for my own reasons - it has given that added incentive. I do not know
how far I can take it. At times I do wonder if anyone appreciate an improvement barring a
small group maybe. Some have been with me for some time, even after I got it wrong in 2008.
That has always forced me to try harder, and go back to the drawing board. Your wish/
request will be granted this weekend. I will extend Chart 1A and 1B to Monday. Regards
Helge.
Update [February 2nd 2010]: Hello, First, let me say a huge thanks for your work.
It is really quite amazing. I did have a question as I was trying to reconcile the current
week's graph with the table. It appears that the data in the table is a day ahead of the
data shown in Chart 1. If this was in error, I just wanted to report it to you. If I am
mistaken about my interpretation of it, please let me know that too. :) Thanks J.T.
Thanks J.T. - I take all the recognition that comes my way, for my hard work. Today I was
also amazed that the market climbed back from the Asian session, you would think a break
down would come, but the Intraday Cycle seems to want to be reckoned with. I hope visitors
will find the 24 hours price picture with the Mini Dow YMH10 - helpful, including people
residing in Asia, Europe and in all time zones.
The flaw in the table is corrected, it was due to the inclusion of Friday from last week. The
purpose was to see were the market came from, when a new week starts. I am always
grateful for the attentive visitors, that notify me about such matters. No need to remind me of
my flawed English though, its not my mother tongue, I am also a dyslectic, and I struggle very
hard to improve that aspect as well.
Hello Mr. Loekke, I just want to say again, what a joy it has been trading with your cycles.
They have helped me tremendously! Sincerely, Paul
... Just wanted to stop by and say thanks for your hard work on the charts! They have been
invaluable with this tape! KB
Dear Mr. Loekke...The most important chart to me, besides Zoom Crude, is
chart #4, Current 5 Weeks, under Intraday Cycle. I've noticed that if the 6.5 market
hours cuts around the center of the up/down cycle lines, it may reverse. Strength of direction
seems to be near the top or bottom, or when the 6.5 hours engulf the entire up or down line
especially if it is long. MC
Thanks MC, This has been my notion that observant visitors/ analysts might discover things
in the charts, independent of me. Jay Strauss also commented on this intraday chart. The
Crude Study surprises me, even with a relative short cyclical history, it has always come out
well - even back in the early 90ties.
Before the NYMEX contract was launched in the 80ties, and became an instant success,
[shaking up the OPEC cartel] - I have used Heating Oil price data from 1978 to the
inception of the West Texas I.. Future. Accumulating more history for the crude contract, I
have high hopes for the Crude Study. If I keep updating the web site, this should become a
meeting place for energy traders around the world.
The Bond Chart represents a huge market, the Chinese government should pay my web site
a visit, and I will stop bad mouthing communists [a meeting place for even communists]. It has
also surprised me, since I had no success with just the so called Raw Numbers. Then I
lumped together small an long cycles in one "soup" calculated an 55 days week average,
shifted left, and this graph ensued, with an average of the average. This might be the biggest
market in the world. I have calculated it towards 2050, and it shows nice swings, then periods
where the internal cycles seem to neutralize each other. This we see in Nature. The old sailors
were stuck in the Doldrums for weeks. It did not mean there were no cyclical forces present,
but they balanced each other out. Climate and markets are very much related. Both sides of
2021 seem very eventful for the bond market, indeed all markets. Helge.
.... I really appreciate your hard work on your blog. Your charts are amazing and I was
told by another trader, (Paul) that you were considering taking it down.
Please know that there are plenty out here that really appreciate your work. I post and
sometimes host on a DeMark trading blog daily and plan to share a link
to your site tomorrow with them. It's a very active daytrading group, so hopefully you'll get
even more hits and interest. Thanks so much, KB
Mr. Loekke, I just wanted to say thank you for providing what I believe is the best cycle
work anywhere. I'm telling everyone I know about the amazing
work that you do. I would be a very sad day for me if you were to stop posting your work.
Thank you!Sincerely, Paul.
Hi Helge, Thank you for the prompt reply. I looked through the site and found a cycle with
a period of approximately 210 days, which is close to 30 weeks. You had stated that you are
utilizing planetary relationships in the calculations of these cycles. If this is not proprietary
information, what is your rationale for choosing a filter period of around 210 days from a
planetary perspective? In other words, I am presuming that you are choosing the time
parameter in the calculation, which depicts the 210 day period? I am not asking for the
formula nor the time parameter. I am asking about the major planetary relationship that would
produce a cycle of this length, such as a synodic period.
I see that you have a comparison of the Daily Trigger Cycle and other instruments. Are
you able to change the time parameter in your calculations to refine the precision with which
the Daily Trigger Cycle corresponds to a change in trend of the particular instruments, since
different planets significantly affect different markets Yes, I am interested in receiving the daily
trigger cycle that you offered. I would greatly appreciate the offer, for I am interested in
testing it against the Dow. Thank you, JB
Dear JB, You must be referring to what I call the Bigger Trigger Cycle, shown here for all
markets. I will say its more 205 days then 210, you can also consider a 102 days cycle from
top to bottom or the other way around. I discuss it here October 4th 2009, the day I first
posted the charts. This is an overlay of the Trigger Cycle proper, which can be seen close
up in the last chart in this Intraday Series.
I see your point about planetary cycle, but look away from that. I agree it seems odd, I came
across this by an "accident." The raw data refers to objective astronomical data generated by
NASA, but is not linked to any planetary positions/ coordinates in the normal sense. I
watched it and noticed that it effected all markets in the way stated. Causing reversals,
accelerations towards the trigger date or acceleration away from it. Or all the above. Make
your own independent study. I gave it to a renown currency trader in the early 90ties, who
was not very computer savvy. He asked me if I would print it out on hard copy for years to
come, quite an effort. Proof of my commitment to the service of mankind. He did some
amazing searching for cycles in the price history only, but had found the Trigger Cycle
valuable in his work, and wanted to have it handy.
To your last question. No there is no adjustment here, this reflects precise objective
[mathematical] events, but no longitude, latitude or declination positions are involved. I am
sorry that I will not divulge more. I do generously post my results free of charge, with historic
data for anyone to decide if the data and the method have merit. Also I avoid giving precise
interpretations. There are many savvy cycle analyst out there, and they might find things here
that aid their work, and I should not bias them by coming up with specific dates, its never that
easy. Years back when I stopped posting for a while, quite a few Gann analysts regretted
that, and told me [rather belatedly] they found my original research quite useful, even Elliot
Wave analysts. I will be mailing you the Trigger Cycle from 1885-2050, in text and Excel
format. If you republish, kindly credit this web site. Anyone interested can request it, also
Raw Numbers history from 2000 and 2007 (RWX). Here I publish data for 6 weeks ahead
of time. A new week will be posted during weekends. Helge.
Excellent work! And I love your comments about Ayn Rand. Don.
Hi Helge, I have been looking at your site for over a year now. I find your intraday
trigger cycle amazing. I have a couple of questions.
1) the intraday trigger cycle is derived from historical prices alone?
2) how far into the future do you have the intraday trigger cycle?
Thank you, JB
Dear JB,
Thanks for your kind comments. The Trigger Cycle is actually a daily cycle, you can see it
in some of the daily charts, scroll down to the third chart here: http://cyclelt.com/PT.htm. Its
not derived from history of Dow Jones or any market, its a force effecting everything on the
planet, especially human behaviour.
Then to be able to see it intraday I calculated it linearly from midnight to midnight into a 24
hours perspective. The interpretation [effect] is +/- 1 day. Some times it falls on Saturdays
and Sundays of course, with possible effects on Fridays or Mondays. The turns can trigger
events in all markets, not only stocks. Its convenient to have it in the intraday chart, just to be
cognisant that trigger events are coming up. The other intraday graphs (averages, trends) say
more about the probable direction. Often the turns in T.C. causes plain reversals,
accelerations to the Trigger Date or acceleration from it, seen in the last chart here.
Your second question: There is no limit to how far into the future I can calculate any of the
cycles presented on this web site, for now I have stopped in 2050. For those interested I
have given the Trigger Cycle away in a daily perspective from 1885-2050. If you like to
have it - I shall mail it to you. Then your can test it against any market. Helge.
Hello Mr. Loekke. I use your work consistently. I've notice you haven't updated over the
weekend. I depend on it. Please keep up the work. Would you divulge how you derive the
Raw Numbers? I need these numbers for many years to come. Thank you for being there.
Wish you well, MC
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there are questions I mark the subject and other references with bold face letters - both in
the letter and my reply.
Update [February 5th 2010]: Dear Helge, I have been studying your intraday charts
since December last year and must thank you for so generously sharing your brilliant
forecasts with the world. Your work is more than impressive and the best part is that
you are able to remain so humble about your considerable achievements. So I thought a
note of thanks was more than overdue, and I really hope to see you continue posting
your forecasts. Thank you - you are an amazing gift to all traders!
I was also wondering whether you could be so kind as to show your intraday forecast
for the following Monday as well in your weekly forecasts at
http://www.cyclelt.com/INT.htm ? I noticed that you recently put in last Friday's
forecast together with the current week. Would it be possible to replace that with the
following Monday's forecast please? As a trader, I often have difficulty wondering
whether to hold a position through the weekend so a forecast for the following Monday
would be invaluable. Thank you so much once again: your charts keep getting better
and better, and I very much appreciate all the additions you've been making to the
intraday charts page! You're the best, really! Kind regards, C
Thanks C ... for your kind comments about my effort and original research. I do not get
much feedback, so yours was very welcome. My audience out there is quite static, so spread
the good news, that is the only thing you can do; to secure the duration for this service, since I
have kept publishing for my own reasons - it has given that added incentive. I do not know
how far I can take it. At times I do wonder if anyone appreciate an improvement barring a
small group maybe. Some have been with me for some time, even after I got it wrong in 2008.
That has always forced me to try harder, and go back to the drawing board. Your wish/
request will be granted this weekend. I will extend Chart 1A and 1B to Monday. Regards
Helge.
Update [February 2nd 2010]: Hello, First, let me say a huge thanks for your work.
It is really quite amazing. I did have a question as I was trying to reconcile the current
week's graph with the table. It appears that the data in the table is a day ahead of the
data shown in Chart 1. If this was in error, I just wanted to report it to you. If I am
mistaken about my interpretation of it, please let me know that too. :) Thanks J.T.
Thanks J.T. - I take all the recognition that comes my way, for my hard work. Today I was
also amazed that the market climbed back from the Asian session, you would think a break
down would come, but the Intraday Cycle seems to want to be reckoned with. I hope visitors
will find the 24 hours price picture with the Mini Dow YMH10 - helpful, including people
residing in Asia, Europe and in all time zones.
The flaw in the table is corrected, it was due to the inclusion of Friday from last week. The
purpose was to see were the market came from, when a new week starts. I am always
grateful for the attentive visitors, that notify me about such matters. No need to remind me of
my flawed English though, its not my mother tongue, I am also a dyslectic, and I struggle very
hard to improve that aspect as well.
Hello Mr. Loekke, I just want to say again, what a joy it has been trading with your cycles.
They have helped me tremendously! Sincerely, Paul
... Just wanted to stop by and say thanks for your hard work on the charts! They have been
invaluable with this tape! KB
Dear Mr. Loekke...The most important chart to me, besides Zoom Crude, is
chart #4, Current 5 Weeks, under Intraday Cycle. I've noticed that if the 6.5 market
hours cuts around the center of the up/down cycle lines, it may reverse. Strength of direction
seems to be near the top or bottom, or when the 6.5 hours engulf the entire up or down line
especially if it is long. MC
Thanks MC, This has been my notion that observant visitors/ analysts might discover things
in the charts, independent of me. Jay Strauss also commented on this intraday chart. The
Crude Study surprises me, even with a relative short cyclical history, it has always come out
well - even back in the early 90ties.
Before the NYMEX contract was launched in the 80ties, and became an instant success,
[shaking up the OPEC cartel] - I have used Heating Oil price data from 1978 to the
inception of the West Texas I.. Future. Accumulating more history for the crude contract, I
have high hopes for the Crude Study. If I keep updating the web site, this should become a
meeting place for energy traders around the world.
The Bond Chart represents a huge market, the Chinese government should pay my web site
a visit, and I will stop bad mouthing communists [a meeting place for even communists]. It has
also surprised me, since I had no success with just the so called Raw Numbers. Then I
lumped together small an long cycles in one "soup" calculated an 55 days week average,
shifted left, and this graph ensued, with an average of the average. This might be the biggest
market in the world. I have calculated it towards 2050, and it shows nice swings, then periods
where the internal cycles seem to neutralize each other. This we see in Nature. The old sailors
were stuck in the Doldrums for weeks. It did not mean there were no cyclical forces present,
but they balanced each other out. Climate and markets are very much related. Both sides of
2021 seem very eventful for the bond market, indeed all markets. Helge.
.... I really appreciate your hard work on your blog. Your charts are amazing and I was
told by another trader, (Paul) that you were considering taking it down.
Please know that there are plenty out here that really appreciate your work. I post and
sometimes host on a DeMark trading blog daily and plan to share a link
to your site tomorrow with them. It's a very active daytrading group, so hopefully you'll get
even more hits and interest. Thanks so much, KB
Mr. Loekke, I just wanted to say thank you for providing what I believe is the best cycle
work anywhere. I'm telling everyone I know about the amazing
work that you do. I would be a very sad day for me if you were to stop posting your work.
Thank you!Sincerely, Paul.
Hi Helge, Thank you for the prompt reply. I looked through the site and found a cycle with
a period of approximately 210 days, which is close to 30 weeks. You had stated that you are
utilizing planetary relationships in the calculations of these cycles. If this is not proprietary
information, what is your rationale for choosing a filter period of around 210 days from a
planetary perspective? In other words, I am presuming that you are choosing the time
parameter in the calculation, which depicts the 210 day period? I am not asking for the
formula nor the time parameter. I am asking about the major planetary relationship that would
produce a cycle of this length, such as a synodic period.
I see that you have a comparison of the Daily Trigger Cycle and other instruments. Are
you able to change the time parameter in your calculations to refine the precision with which
the Daily Trigger Cycle corresponds to a change in trend of the particular instruments, since
different planets significantly affect different markets Yes, I am interested in receiving the daily
trigger cycle that you offered. I would greatly appreciate the offer, for I am interested in
testing it against the Dow. Thank you, JB
Dear JB, You must be referring to what I call the Bigger Trigger Cycle, shown here for all
markets. I will say its more 205 days then 210, you can also consider a 102 days cycle from
top to bottom or the other way around. I discuss it here October 4th 2009, the day I first
posted the charts. This is an overlay of the Trigger Cycle proper, which can be seen close
up in the last chart in this Intraday Series.
I see your point about planetary cycle, but look away from that. I agree it seems odd, I came
across this by an "accident." The raw data refers to objective astronomical data generated by
NASA, but is not linked to any planetary positions/ coordinates in the normal sense. I
watched it and noticed that it effected all markets in the way stated. Causing reversals,
accelerations towards the trigger date or acceleration away from it. Or all the above. Make
your own independent study. I gave it to a renown currency trader in the early 90ties, who
was not very computer savvy. He asked me if I would print it out on hard copy for years to
come, quite an effort. Proof of my commitment to the service of mankind. He did some
amazing searching for cycles in the price history only, but had found the Trigger Cycle
valuable in his work, and wanted to have it handy.
To your last question. No there is no adjustment here, this reflects precise objective
[mathematical] events, but no longitude, latitude or declination positions are involved. I am
sorry that I will not divulge more. I do generously post my results free of charge, with historic
data for anyone to decide if the data and the method have merit. Also I avoid giving precise
interpretations. There are many savvy cycle analyst out there, and they might find things here
that aid their work, and I should not bias them by coming up with specific dates, its never that
easy. Years back when I stopped posting for a while, quite a few Gann analysts regretted
that, and told me [rather belatedly] they found my original research quite useful, even Elliot
Wave analysts. I will be mailing you the Trigger Cycle from 1885-2050, in text and Excel
format. If you republish, kindly credit this web site. Anyone interested can request it, also
Raw Numbers history from 2000 and 2007 (RWX). Here I publish data for 6 weeks ahead
of time. A new week will be posted during weekends. Helge.
Excellent work! And I love your comments about Ayn Rand. Don.
Hi Helge, I have been looking at your site for over a year now. I find your intraday
trigger cycle amazing. I have a couple of questions.
1) the intraday trigger cycle is derived from historical prices alone?
2) how far into the future do you have the intraday trigger cycle?
Thank you, JB
Dear JB,
Thanks for your kind comments. The Trigger Cycle is actually a daily cycle, you can see it
in some of the daily charts, scroll down to the third chart here: http://cyclelt.com/PT.htm. Its
not derived from history of Dow Jones or any market, its a force effecting everything on the
planet, especially human behaviour.
Then to be able to see it intraday I calculated it linearly from midnight to midnight into a 24
hours perspective. The interpretation [effect] is +/- 1 day. Some times it falls on Saturdays
and Sundays of course, with possible effects on Fridays or Mondays. The turns can trigger
events in all markets, not only stocks. Its convenient to have it in the intraday chart, just to be
cognisant that trigger events are coming up. The other intraday graphs (averages, trends) say
more about the probable direction. Often the turns in T.C. causes plain reversals,
accelerations to the Trigger Date or acceleration from it, seen in the last chart here.
Your second question: There is no limit to how far into the future I can calculate any of the
cycles presented on this web site, for now I have stopped in 2050. For those interested I
have given the Trigger Cycle away in a daily perspective from 1885-2050. If you like to
have it - I shall mail it to you. Then your can test it against any market. Helge.
Hello Mr. Loekke. I use your work consistently. I've notice you haven't updated over the
weekend. I depend on it. Please keep up the work. Would you divulge how you derive the
Raw Numbers? I need these numbers for many years to come. Thank you for being there.
Wish you well, MC
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